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How CISOs should evolve training and readiness with Bobby Ford

The Cybersecurity Defenders Podcast

Join us for this week's Defender Fridays as Bobby Ford, Chief Strategy and Experience Officer at Doppel, breaks down how AI is amplifying social engineering attacks across every channel and what CISOs need to do differently to get ahead of the threat. At Defender Fridays, we delve into the dynamic world of information security, exploring its defensive side with seasoned professionals from across the industry. Our aim is simple yet ambitious: to foster a collaborative space where ideas flow freely, experiences are shared, and knowledge expands. What We'll Discuss In this episode, Bobby Ford draws on fifteen years as a CISO to examine how generative AI has transformed social engineering into a high-volume, multichannel threat and why most organizations are defending the wrong part of the attack chain. Key Topics:

  • How generative AI has increased the variety, volume, and velocity of social engineering attacks
  • Why the social engineering attack chain has five stages and where most security controls are focused versus where they should be
  • Why a high click rate reflects a weak security program, not a weak user
  • How deepfakes and synthetic media are eroding the reliability of human verification
  • Why multichannel simulation is now a baseline requirement for any meaningful phishing program
  • How disrupting attacker infrastructure early is more effective than focusing on engagement and compromise
  • Why every preventive control not paired with a detective control is just a speed bump for attackers
  • What metrics CISOs should actually be tracking, including impersonation accounts, typosquatted domains, and malicious paid ads

About Our Guest Bobby Ford is the Chief Strategy & Experience Officer at Doppel and a fifteen-year CISO veteran with leadership roles at HPE, Unilever, and Abbott Labs. He began his career in cybersecurity as a soldier in the US Army and has spent his career building and advising security programs at some of the world's largest organizations.